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List of events named pogrom was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 18 February 2014 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Pogrom. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
The wiki page about the event does not describe the event as a “progrom”. In fact: page is likely going to be renamed from “November 2024 Amsterdam attack” to “Amsterdam 2024 football riot” in an effort to more accurately describe the events. If the main page about the event does not classify it as a “progrom”, this page probably shouldn’t either. Yoshuawuyts (talk) 23:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
People saying things doesn't make it true, it is most likely speculation. Adding this to the Wikipedia page can have real harm for the truth, as it implies that it is an actual pogrom, but we don't know for sure. I think it should be removed until it is investigated to be true. Shadowbstr (talk) 12:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the speed with which the page was updated tells you everything you need to know about blatant bias on display from the editor RUSHING to dilute the meaning of the word pogrom by adding a small fights breaking out after the football match between hooligans disrespecting locals and tearing down flags and local population to the page, warping the narrative and omitting racist displays by the football fans prior to the fights that broke out
“If Femke Halsema did the press conference a day after Ajax-Maccabi Tel Aviv, she would not use the word 'pogrom' again. The Amsterdam mayor believes that that term has been used as "propaganda" by the Israeli government and Hague politicians, among others. "That's not how I meant it and wanted it," she tells Nieuwsuur.”
This seems relevant because currently the section only includes quotes by Israeli officials — which the Amsterdam city major is directly calling out as being propaganda. Yoshuawuyts (talk) 00:31, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Are we going to equate every fight where 2 different ethnicities are involved to a, and I quote the article itself, "violent riot incited with the aim of massacring or expelling an ethnic or religious group"?
What is this silliness? A bunchs of tourists and agressive hooligans got attacked, stop abusing the page to call anything involving Jews a pogrom, this word has a deep and terrible meaning and it's stupid to equate a random fight post-match to a massacre and deliberate attempt to kill them 62.77.132.12 (talk) 15:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
